Tail Tidies - Fender Eliminators. Are they legal?

5 replies [Last post]
John_Cook's picture
John_Cook
Offline
Joined: 08/07/2010

I received this email enquiry from a member today.

"Hi John,

Do you know where I can find out more on what Vic Roads & Vic Police current view of Tail Tidies & Fender Eliminators?

I like the clean look of a bike without the stock rear fender but don't want any fines.

Regards,

Scott"

Put simply, I don't know the answer to his question.  I have heard stories of people being booked for riding unroadworthy bikes after fitting such devices which often lift the rear mudguard well above the centre of the back axle.  I simply don't know the current legal ramifications in Victoria but I do know that some accessories do not meet roadworthy certificate requirements.

Scott and I would appreciate feedback from anyone who know the correct answer.  

John_Cook's picture
John_Cook
Offline
Joined: 08/07/2010
Tail Tidies - Fender Eliminators - The semi official answer

 

I won't name my source but here is the answer.
 
"Technically it's 45 degrees from the rear axle to the lowest point of the fender, which is subjective as its not specific to loaded or unloaded weight. The idea being the reduction of debris being ejected onto following vehicles.
 
You could ask a Vic Roads officer who just wanted to give you an answer so they can complete a new on line government work place satisfaction study before knock off, but then you'll get pulled over by a newly graduated student of the three week long advanced traffic studies course who wants to exercise their newly acquired skills and who disagrees with the Vic Roads officer's interpretation of the ADR's.
 
In saying this, it would have to be an extremely bored police member or a 'customer' failing the attitude test to get an unroadworthy notice slapped on the bike for a fender mod."
 
There's the rub - some of it is subject to interpretation and the interaction / demeanour between an intercepting authority figure (it isn't just police these days) and the rider.    
richard_m_h's picture
richard_m_h
Offline
Joined: 04/09/2010
If you ride in the Yarra

If you ride in the Yarra Ranges on weekends with one, a good chance you'll be pinged.

Eliot's picture
Eliot
Offline
Joined: 15/04/2011
Fender Eliminators ... be very careful

HI there,

I bought an SV650 from a dealer in Box hill.  Unbeknown to me, the previous owner (who, I have since been told, was a member of the constabulary) had the dealer modify the bike to eliminate the fender, and re-install the tail-light and the number plate.

Not that long after I purchased the bike I went through an RBT in Endeavour Hills.  The (obnoxious) officer, prior to having me blow into the breath tester, was having a good look around the bike.  Then he started questioning me about the number plate and accusing me of "redesigning" the rear end by removing the fender etc.  He was ready to nick me for having an unroadworthy bike but must have believed my story of having acquired it in this condition from reputable dealer in Box Hill who were supposed to be selling road worthy bikes.  This officer noted that I did not have any rear reflectors on the back of the bike (now I have two from a local push bike shop), and that my number plate was not in the prescribed position. I understand that the number plate should be located behind or outside the 45 degree line drawn from the centre of rear axle (this I haven't been able to rectify). 

The main concern of this officer regarding the elimination of the fender seemed to be the position of number plate, ie, whether it could be photographed by speed cameras on the freeways and tollways etc and the rider of the bike being able to be identified.

Hopefully this info will help someone consider carefully, the elimination of their bike's fender.

Great riding and safe.

Eliot's picture
Eliot
Offline
Joined: 15/04/2011
Fender eliminators

The following link Vicroads vehicle standards Information from VicRoads may be helpful if you can find the item Motor Cycle/Moped Requirements [PDF, 882KB] but there is no mention that I can find, of number plate positioning.

John_Cook's picture
John_Cook
Offline
Joined: 08/07/2010
Aftermarket "Huggers" - a cautionary tale

This post was put on a Triumph related forum by an Adelaide member after he had a serious mishap on the way to the Launceston AGM after fitting an aftermarket "hugger" to his Triumph explorer, loading the bike (with luggage and pillion) and heading out for a 5 week trip. 

http://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,13250.0.html



 See the link for the full story.  That was a brand new tyre that got shreddedsurprisecryingangry

MELBOURNE MEETPOINTS

Who's new

  • geoff shugg
  • Steve Curtin
  • mick thomas
  • adventurebandit
  • Tinas_Harley

Who's online

There are currently 0 users and 4 guests online.

Calendar

M T W T F S S
 
 
 
 
 
 
1
 
2
 
3
 
4
 
5
 
6
 
7
 
8
 
9
 
10
 
11
 
12
 
13
 
14
 
15
 
16
 
17
 
18
 
19
 
20
 
21
 
22
 
23
 
24
 
25
 
26
 
27
 
28
 
29
 
30
 
31
 
 
 
 
 
 
Add to calendar